Post by † Damien Darkside † on Feb 4, 2008 8:26:33 GMT -5
So we have mutaually decided that abrotion is wrong to different people. The anti-abortionists are basically people caught up in morals while those that support it are those with a different set of morals all-together?
Post by ..::Hitsugaya Toushirou::.. on Feb 5, 2008 8:16:09 GMT -5
Ya, I guess simply, thats the way to put it, some people think differently on such topics and so results vary, different sides are viewed, so really this wasn't a matter of who is right, but what do both sides see, whats the ups and downs of both sides. It possibly could have opened the eyes of one to see maybe how difficult it is to have an abortion, or to keep the baby! Difficult choices ...
Post by † Damien Darkside † on Feb 6, 2008 10:27:42 GMT -5
I think if you eat meat and say that abortion is wrong, because it is killing a child, then you ought to stop eating meat. Think of battery chickens, or maybe hunting. It's one thing to kill a being without a brain or the ability to feel (can foetuses feel? I'm assuming for now), and another to keep a bird in a cage it's whole life, force it to eat far too much as compared with it's excersize levels so on and so forth, wedged so far up against the bars they cut into its skin, you get what I mean.
We are predators, with our advanced minds we don't have to chase a chicken aroung like a fox. We have our own ways. Same with cows and pigs. We eat other species. That is what predators do.
I mean there are children on the other side of the world who are working them selves to death, on no pay or rest, and yet...
Here we are in our countries, wanting the best for cells rather than improving what is already alive.
I just think that we need to start focusing on the bigger picture, before arguing again and again over what makes a life.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING! Go Beyond!
A child has a right to life, yes, but if the life would, from the beginging, be full of disease, abuse, very unstable finacialities (what ever you want to call it) so on and so forth, I think it also has the right to something of a good life.
Bringing an unwanted baby into a relationship without love is one of the saddest things for a child I think.
I myself am Pro-choice.
Agree with everything except for the "right to life". Who are we to say that we have the right? We don't. We just think that life is "sacred", it is rienforced through religion and has been around for centuries, so is basically hardwired into our brains that life is "sacred/special/a right"
My mum is totaly Pro-life, could NEVER stand the thought of killing a child, though would never force her veiws on any other.
Exactly, people who are pro-life should mind their own business. It isn't your busineess, your life or your choice.
I guess it just varies from induvidual.
On the rape subject, I think that it would be highly unfair on the child to say she can not abort. It should be her educated descision. But as a child keeping the baby would make life more difficult, school would be a problem, money and care for the baby also. I mean how would you feel having strechmarks like that, all the stress and the pain of it all just because someone thought it was wrong to kill the baby.
Gotta love other people sticking their noses in your life, then ruining it.
The baby and mother may have a good life, and yet I myself think if I were raped, I'd hardly love the child (I may do...but at present, I would say not) of the man that did something like that to me.
And strange how most religions haven't considered doing mental/psycological studies on the after-effects and treatment of the child after birth from a rapist. I couldn't find any numbers.
Being raped is bad enough I assume, and yet if an abortion would make things worse for the child, let her be. It is her educated choice.
As long as it is EDUCATED, which, by the way, all therapy and support groups DO.
I think the father and mother should have something of equal rights to deciding weather or not to have the child. Though ultimateley if the mother really is against it then the father can always adopt, or whatever.
Whatever being leave her. Why should she mess up his life because she decides to stay at poverty line?